From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-27 15:47:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!195.25.12.36!oleane.net!oleane!teaser.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Beard, Frank" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Ada The Best Language? Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:46:12 -0400 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 996274061 83323 137.194.161.2 (27 Jul 2001 22:47:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:47:41 +0000 (UTC) To: "'comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org'" Return-Path: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10652 Date: 2001-07-27T18:46:12-04:00 Aonix still has a way to go. Documentation is still lacking, but the online help is okay. They still assume you will know Windows programming or will look at an existing Windows programming book (like I want to look at C/C++ examples). The GUI builder is easy to use but it still needs more automated Widgets like Delphi has. And I wish it had some more automated tools for interfacing to databases, etc. You can also produce Java applets with it. I played with it several years ago and managed to produce a "Hello world" applet. And again it assumes you will know Java, or will be using an existing Java programming book (like I want to look at Java examples). Overall I like it, but it's still running behind Delphi and VC++. Frank PS. I think the Professional Edition is ~$595. The Enterprise Edition is ~$1195 or so, then they have a cross platform version (don't remember the Edition). Maybe they'll correct me if I'm wrong on the prices. -----Original Message----- From: Marin David Condic [mailto:marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:29 PM I think one of the big disappointments to me with the Aonix environment was that at the time, there was a shortage of documentation on how to use it with Windows - sort of assuming you'd know how to do that from using MSVC++, etc. That, of course, raises the question "Then why not just use MSVC++ since you've got to know it & have it anyway?" I also sort of felt that it should have presented a more Ada-ish feeling to Windows programming - but I can't blame them for not wanting to produce something that would be unfamiliar to the experienced Windows developer. Still, I think it would be good to take a look at where it is at after this much time... MDC