From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-16 14:19:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: Michal Nowak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:21:44 +0200 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d207_1@news3.prserv.net> <3B51DD8A.9FBCA84F@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 995318370 39331 137.194.161.2 (16 Jul 2001 21:19:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Return-Path: In-reply-to: <3B51DD8A.9FBCA84F@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 2.40.40 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10023 Date: 2001-07-16T23:21:44+02:00 On 01-07-15, at 11:14, Lao Xiao Hai wrote: >The question that triggered this thread has to do with the viability of Ada. Recently, >I have encountered academics who believe there is no point in teaching Ada anymore >since it is, if not dead, irrelevant. One even told me it would be impossible to buy >an Ada compiler in five years. Wrongheaded as that opinion may be, it is more >widespread than I would like. One of my students works for a large defense >contractor with products written in Ada. He tells me his job is to "rip out all of >that Ada code and replace it with C++." As stupid as that decision might be, it is >a reality we must acknowledge. > >We also have to do a better job of countering minsinformation. Among the idiotic >things I have heard recently. "Boeing is going to convert the B777 avionics code >to C++." "The FAA has abandoned Ada. It no longer plans to do any new development >in Ada." "The transition to Ada 95 is too expensive. We plan to convert our code >to C++." "There are no development tools for Ada. We are going to use C++ and >Java." Oh, and this one is still around. "Ada is too expensive. The cost/benefit of >Ada is not offset by Ada's being a better language. We can build software just as >well and for less money than it would cost to use Ada." ...Sounds bad, very bad. I got mixed feeling. Some letters were so optimistic, this one makes opposite thoughts. Dark vision of future? One-language tendency world? Java - queen, C++/C# - king? Is this direction the world is heading for? News like this one can clip you wings. I don't want it became true. And if I say I know Ada, during applying for a job, I don't want to get response: "Sorry, we need Java programmers, whole world writes in Java, we must follow the trend". I see this tendedency in my country, and it arises. I still hope there is better world outside... -Mike ------------------------ Mike Nowak mailto: vinnie@inetia.pl