From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,feca6fc7f3d2dddd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-09 15:29:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio?= Amado Alves Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 1 (was RE: is Ada dead?) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 23:29:02 +0000 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 994717762 11368 137.194.161.2 (9 Jul 2001 22:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Return-Path: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9695 Date: 2001-07-09T23:29:02+00:00 > The posts I have read here imply to me that many of the Java/C/C++ > devotees are building small-scale projects where the interaction of 1, > 2 or 3 programmers is sufficient for the job. At my place of > employment, interaction is required between tens of programmers at > least as they develop thousands and thousands of lines of code, and > from my experience Ada is *VASTLY* superior for such jobs. Actually this might be a non-issue: it has been demonstrated (hopefully my talk at Ada'2001 helped ;-) that contrarywise to common belief Ada is a better language also for programming "in the small". Also a common mistake is to judge the learning curve of Ada longer than that of Java or C++. It is not, at least significantly. It is about a year long in every case. Anyway I think I like it being part of the "enlightned minority". I don't try to convert anybody anymore. And anyway in business world the choice of Ada might be a sort of business "secret". Ada-based firms simply deliver better service, and to C++ players they may calmly say "more power to you". Of course there is the problem of Ada programmers shortage. Or is it really? Michael does not seem to have any trouble bringing together "tens of [Ada] programmers"... -- , M A R I O data miner, LIACC, room 221 tel 351+226078830, ext 121 A M A D O Rua Campo Alegre, 823 fax 351+226003654 A L V E S P-4150 PORTO, Portugal mob 351+939354002