From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-08 03:50:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!213.56.195.71!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: Michal Nowak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 12:52:50 +0200 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 994589430 6010 137.194.161.2 (8 Jul 2001 10:50:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:50:30 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Return-Path: In-reply-to: <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 2.40.40 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9634 Date: 2001-07-08T12:52:50+02:00 On 01-07-07, at 17:41, Andrzej Lewandowski wrote: >But almost everybody is using Java and almost non\body is using Ada. And who is using it? I don't. Maybe except applets on www pages. And you think it is good? Java was intended to be more OO-language than C++, to help desingning good software. It is step forward in some parts, but I think it can cause bad habits. Many my friends write in Java - they turned into "Java-people". But only little percent of them writes good code. In many cases Java code bacame more messy than C++ code. ??? Yes, garbage collector made them lazy. "I put it here or there, never mind, garbage collector will do its job". They gaining bad habits. Java can be one-way ticket. Switching back to other languages can be difficult (I observed this on labs - many of them had big problems in learning Ada and trobles in understaning it.) -Mike ------------------------ Mike Nowak mailto: vinnie@inetia.pl