From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-26 20:35:33 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!oleane.net!oleane!jussieu.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Market pressures for more reliable software Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:33:50 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 993612932 21589 137.194.161.2 (27 Jun 2001 03:35:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 03:35:32 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <9ha81v$ps5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9130 Date: 2001-06-26T20:33:50-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: Marin David Condic et al. Texas Instruments had a better computer running the UCSD Pascal system. When the IBM PC appeared, TI dropped their good design and built an imperfect clone. I believe Compac was started by some disgruntled TI engineers, who wanted to build a proper clone. Altair, Sphere, and I believe Apple came before the IBM PC. Amusingly, IBM had a scientific PC based on the Intel Multibus and a Motorola processor. This scientific PC, which was subsequently killed, was a better design than the Intel powered PC. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Marin David Condic Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:00 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Just for the record, I did not make the statement below. Depending on just what sort of definition one has for "Personal Computer" - crediting IBM with its invention becomes either true or false. I believe it is accurate to say that IBM was the first to use the words "Personal Computer" in characterizing a computer that they manufactured (Here is sunny Boca Raton, BTW) in their advertising. However they were not the first to manufacture a small, inexpensive computer designed to be used primarily by a single individual. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Al Christians" wrote in message news:3B38975D.7BE3BDE7@easystreet.com... > "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote: > > > > Marin David Condic wrote: > > > > > > Actually, IBM didn't invent the personal computer, although it did significantly > > alter the accepted architecture. IBM did push "personal computing" before there > > was a noticeable personal computer industry, with such products as CALL/360 and > > VSPC. > > And there was Joss, which ran on the Johnniac. That was an early step > toward end-user programming. > > Al