From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-22 08:33:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!proxad.net!latulipe.staff.proxad.net!news.uic.asso.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Ada Developer's Cooperative License (was) Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:32:40 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 993224014 44268 137.194.161.2 (22 Jun 2001 15:33:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:33:33 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3B319E3C.69E344BC@ACM.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9033 Date: 2001-06-22T08:32:40-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: Colin Paul Gloster et al. Although, it is quite correct that, "XML turned out to be a "very fat" representation, i.e., the files get rather large (consider this a European understatement", Microsoft Excel can now function in XML mode. This and the rush of the other vendors to XML proves that XML is here to stay. I might note that my own interest, Analytical Cytology, employs very large data files. The simple solution for large binary data is to create an XML binary form based upon an already existing data type. The description of the data, patient, instrument, etc. can be left in somewhat bloated XML text files. The important facts are: 1) XML is controlled by the World Wide Web Consortium, W3C. 2) XML includes sufficient capabilities for a portable GUI and printing. and 3) XML is a reasonable standard will a good mapping to Ada. I will note that control by W3C www.w3.org is infinitely preferable to proprietary standards imposed by companies such as Microsoft, SUN, or IBM. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Colin Paul Gloster Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:12 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Ada Developer's Cooperative License (was) Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Bob Leif said: "[..] or if I am given the opportunity during a workshop on "Creating a Symbiotic Relationship Between XML and Ada". [..] The second assumption is that an ASIS [..]" On SIGADA-ASIS@ACM.org in the thread "Re: proposed ASIS-based tool" did Erhard Pl�dereder not claim in his email timestamped Thu, 3 May 2001 18:08:24 +0200 : "I have some limited exposure to an actual implementation using XML in a context where a semantically attributed intermediate language is mapped onto XML. XML turned out to be a "very fat" representation, i.e., the files get rather large (consider this a European understatement -- it was barely ok to do a proof-of-concept; a tool of practical use it was not in this context) [..]"? Perhaps XML is not practical in other contexts too.