(To connect to the topic again) If I say that "some number of seconds after an epoch" is a well defined point in time, then I�m definitely telling nonsense from the view of spacetime physics. So I have to make the restriction that "good old theories" are sufficiently applicable (no "pop culture" here :-)). These restrictions include high speeds and different gravitation. Wilhelm On 31-May-01 Wes Groleau wrote: >> from epoch XXX" then no one will be early (if no one travels at too >> relativistic >> speeds). ..... > > (To get a little off-topic) > > The pop culture notion that you can leave earth > and return at near the speed of light, and find > your great-great-great-grandchildren older than > you is a misconception. > > 1. Special Relativity applies to two observers > moving at an unchanging rate of speed relative > to each other. If you leave and return, your > velocity must change. > > 2. IF you meet the conditions of special relativity, > the theory predicts that EACH observer will see > the OTHER'S clock as faster by the same amount. > So if you somehow found a way to get back together > in spite of the constant relative velocity condition, > you would say, "Hey, your clock is several Megaseconds > fast." and he/she would respond, "No, YOUR clock is > several Megaseconds fast." > > Unfortunately, "pop culture" includes many sci-fi writers > and even several science NON-fiction writers, who keep > perpetuating this thing like an urban legend. > > Even worse is the notion that black holes are the answer > to interstellar travel. > > -- > Wes Groleau > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau > _______________________________________________ > comp.lang.ada mailing list > comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org > http://ada.eu.org/mailman/listinfo/comp.lang.ada