From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,c9ea66d3dcd0bfcf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-07 00:16:08 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!193.251.151.101!opentransit.net!jussieu.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] XML/Ada 0.5 released Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:21:11 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 989219767 81660 137.194.161.2 (7 May 2001 07:16:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:16:07 +0000 (UTC) To: , , "Robert Dewar Ph.D." Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: <20010504153453.63BD7F289F@nile.gnat.com> Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7247 Date: 2001-05-07T00:21:11-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: Robert Dewar, David Bottom et al. Robert Dewar wrote: "The only people who are affected by this policy are non-customers who want to build proprietary software, or those who want to build tools and libraries for such parties, and they have never been on our radar screen." I can certainly sympathize with your position. Since ACT is a for profit corporation, I can understand why you do not wish to provide charity for other profit making ventures. I believe that what you are doing is the expected result of the economic model being employed by ACT. This model has produced a two tier pricing strategy: too high and zero. I also believe that the well-deserved great success of ACT is in large part the result of technical superiority and dedication to the use of Ada. I still believe that in the long run, a significant part of the Ada community could make a large amount of money by going beyond the outdated Free Software philosophy and pursuing an effective approach to assist startups. I have described this and created a first draft of a license (see references below). Ada technology including ASIS has the unique capacity to create a rear loaded licensing scheme which includes competitive forces. This is an ideal condition for capitalizing on a unique software technology. In short, many of us could make substantial amounts of money by producing commercial products that work. R. C. Leif, �SIGAda �98, Workshop: How do We Expedite the Commercial Use of Ada?.� Ada letters XIX, No 1 pp. 28-39 (1999). R. C. Leif, �Ada Developers Cooperative License (Draft) Version 0.3�, Ada letters XIX, No 1 pp. 97-107 (1999). -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of dewar@gnat.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:35 AM To: David@Botton.com; comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Cc: dewar@gnat.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XML/Ada 0.5 released <> No, we are not in this kind of business at all <<(The guys at RR Software must be loving this new policy :-) >> They aren't a force in the Ada market at all at this stage, and they sell all their stuff under proprietary licenses anyway. The only people who are affected by this policy are non-customers who want to build proprietary software, or those who want to build tools and libraries for such parties, and they have never been on our radar screen. The only comunities we are interested in helping are our supported customers and those developing free software products for use in entirely free software activities.