From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5faad1722103f6a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 02:24:52 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <40C44F24.8010902@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1086647025 45920 212.85.156.195 (7 Jun 2004 22:23:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:23:45 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: <40C44F24.8010902@noplace.com>; from Marin David Condic at Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:19:37 GMT X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.44 MSDOS] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1220 Date: 2004-06-08T02:24:52+04:00 Marin David Condic wrote: > Cobol suffered from lots of > things like excessive verbosity and clumsy control structures, One of the most evident common things shared by COBOL and Ada was (and perhaps still is) widespread (among programmers) habit to talk about major drawbacks in these languages not knowing them and being induced mostly by own attitude towards the principal application domain (or the internal culture of that domain) for the language. I heard these arguments about excessive verbosity and clumsy control structures - countless times, and always that was said by people who don't understand and don't feel anything about processing of commercial data; most of those people also didn't know COBOL at all, but this is secondary - the primary issue is ignorance and deep dislike of the application domain, which is associated with the language. I used COBOL quite heavily in 80th and never thought that it is excessively verbose or that its control structures are clumsy. It was a language perfectly adequate to its principal application domain taken together with the state of hardware. I think that COBOL "suffered" from its features only in imagination of people who were not involved in real commercial data processing (or were involved, but hated their job for other reasons). Alexander Kopilovich aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia