From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2, BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,XPRIO_SHORT_SUBJ autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ddb34e4ee5e28db0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-25 22:33:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrew Carroll" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: BIND Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:50:15 -0600 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <20040425224751.C907A4C4136@lovelace.ada-france.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1082957557 99363 212.85.156.195 (26 Apr 2004 05:32:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:32:37 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7497 Date: 2004-04-25T23:50:15-06:00 Peeps, Well, I see the Ada BIND project is already met with some resistance. The only thing I can see that would bring about such a large resistance to this project is that there is already work being done on _an_ "Ada BIND" that is not Open Source. Interesting... You know, I used to be a big antagonist of what Microsoft does, like their move in the XML area for their office products. Calling or writing them all day long and telling them their making a big mistake doesn't seem to stop them. Come to think of it, maybe that's why Microsoft does "that" kind of stuff every now and then. Just to "shake off" those companies that have come up with a product that is dependent on a Microsoft API or interface or "something". The product that those companies are making may actually hurt the bottom line of Microsoft; if they didn't change things. Is it possible that the Ada BIND project could hurt someone's bottom line? Hmmm, I now have to wonder... I also have to laugh. The Ada BIND project, at this point, is nothing more than an account on sourceforge. There are no documents, no designs and no source code. There are a bunch of RFCs and possibly some C code to dig through. No work has been done, no evaluation of scope has been done, no feasibility assessment has been done, no requirements gathered, no stakeholders identified and no vision document drawn up. Yet many of you are reacting to the Ada BIND proposal like we just squashed your sweet little wiener dog with our big Ford 1-ton 4x4 truck. It is such an over reaction that it is funny. Maybe you should take a deep breath, organize your thoughts and then present them to us as issues to resolve instead of issues to kill the project? Maybe you feel left out? Maybe you feel we stepped on your toes? I don't know what your thinking and maybe this is an opportunity to voice your concerns in such a way that will not only get your voice recognized but also help with the project. What I am saying is that I'm not convinced that the project should be killed. Give me some proof and then I might change my mind. Well, in reality we should continue the discussion on the project mailing list. adabind-public@lists.sourceforge.net https://sourceforge.net/projects/adabind/ P.S. That's not an invitation to send me emails directly. Please use the project mailing list. Andrew Carroll Carroll-Tech 720-273-6814 andrew@carroll-tech.net