From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,fce663eaf40b52f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Marius Amado Alves" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Manifesto against Vector Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 18:19:23 +0100 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1083691152 11191 212.85.156.195 (4 May 2004 17:19:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:19:12 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2004 17:18:59.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3695560:01C431FB] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:245 Date: 2004-05-04T18:19:23+01:00 [long rambling about how Adaists are, er... noisy] Chris, you're mostly wrong. The serious discussions about advancing Ada are 100% free of antagonism towards C++. The arguments are always strictly technical. Sure lessons learnt from all languages (including Ada 95) are applied. But there's no fanatism involved. If it were we wouldn't have Ada.Containers now, as it owes a lot to the STL of C++. On the matter at hand, it's simply that we had postponed naming issues until the design was done. Now it's done, and naming issues are not "noise" anymore.