From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,699cc914522aa7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!proxad.net!cleanfeed1-b.proxad.net!nnrp17-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Return-Path: To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org References: In-Reply-To: ; from Bj?rn Persson at Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:59:46 GMT Organization: 100 From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:51:16 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.45 MSDOS] Subject: Re: Wasteful internationalization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.17.134 NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Feb 2007 06:00:01 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.14.223 X-Trace: 1170565201 news-3.free.fr 4298 88.191.14.223:56289 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8905 Date: 2007-02-04T06:00:01+01:00 Bj?rn Persson wrote: > what's the point in defining new >standards if nobody ever starts using the new capabilities? Why "nobody"? Unicode provides some reasonable way for mixed-language texts, so those who need that kind of texts may use it successfully. But this does not mean that with emergence of Unicode all kinds of text should be regarded as mixed-language and thus employ Unicode. There is no such strict alternative for the use of those standards: either everybody or nobody. > He's trying to *persuade* >everyone to go back to ASCII. It was not just information. He stated >explicitly that everyone should use ASCII. And he is certainly right in that. Perhaps you'll see the truth later, when you encounter Chinese hieroglyphs and Arabic letters in messages that you are reading. Your brand new Unicode-capable newsreader will give you pretty pictures of them, you will not have a foggiest idea about their possible meaning or how they may sound... perhaps you even will not know in which direction they should be read. >I'll probably >ignore him next time he complains to me, but I may intervene if he attacks >newbies again. It seems that you are contemplating flames on this topic. Well, I should tell you that your current position regarding this subject is not strong enough for reasonably good flaming. Below is just a simple example of the direction of a possible counter-attack that you may experience: [flame on] It isn't enough to update you newsreader - you should update your brains to compatibility with Internationally Agreed Standard. Well, perhaps you are ready for that... updates are relatively easy when there is enough free space and production runs aren't frequent and are delayable. But why do you think that others should be equally ready for that? Do you really think that Internationally Agreed Brain Contents Standard is somehow better than just American standard? [flame off]