From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!proxad.net!cleanfeed1-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Return-Path: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:16:20 +0100 From: "Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)" Subject: AW: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular? In-reply-to: <0s4pqedmzb.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-topic: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular? Thread-index: AcdBQOEPezv/skCyQGarEMg07sTa4QCKypow X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2007 06:16:22.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF45C540:01C7436C] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.17.134 Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 2007 07:20:03 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.14.223 X-Trace: 1170051603 news-2.free.fr 22059 88.191.14.223:48905 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8672 Date: 2007-01-29T07:20:03+01:00 Markus E Leypold wrote: >> Fact is: The students were not able to finish the job, so they were >> given more and more source. And even with 60%, they were still not = able. > See my comment on the helpfullness of help in another articel. I've > only been trying to put forward a general point of view on the idea > that more help brings the students nearer to success in any case.=20 You're absolutely correct on this, no help and also more help up to 60% = did not help the students finish their work in C. On the other hand, using Ada they were able to finish. This is the very = definite result of the study - contrary to what was expected by the = instructor. (Wannst 'as g'lesen h=E4ttst, dadst ned so daherredn :-)