From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a00006d3c4735d70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-27 14:49:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In-Out Parameters for functions Date: 27 Jan 2004 17:38:54 -0500 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1075243151 47417 80.67.180.195 (27 Jan 2004 22:39:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:39:11 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4952 Date: 2004-01-27T17:38:54-05:00 "Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" writes: > Stephen Leake wrote: > > > > Look at this formulae: > > > > > > F(A) + G(A); > > > > > > If F is permitted to change value of A then the result of the > > > formulae may depend on order of computation. And this is > > > obviously dangerous, because the formulae looks as typical > > > mathematical expression, where this effect usually is not > > > anticipated. > > > > Hmm. Let F be Sqrt (Ada.Numerics.Float_Random.Random), and G be > > Ada.Numerics.Float_Random.Random. Then we see that Ada _requires_ the > > behavior you are describing. So it's clearly a Good Thing :). > > "Random" is very special case, in which an intention is quite > opposite to what is common in normal "regular" circumstances. Ok, fine. What is wrong with using mode "in out" for functions in special cases? -- -- Stephe