From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38159b1b5557a2e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-27 14:28:17 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nnx.oleane.net!oleane!freenix!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Ada Preprocessor Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:15:19 +0300 (MSK) Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1075241729 44280 80.67.180.195 (27 Jan 2004 22:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:15:29 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: ; from "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" at Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:00:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.44 MSDOS] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4951 Date: 2004-01-28T01:15:19+03:00 Warren W. Gay wrote: > >> So the trick will be to turn CM into a programming problem, so > >> programmers and mathematicians will be instrested in solving it. > > > > No, I think the right approach is to keep improving Ada for software > > engineers and let programmers use C++. > > OUCH. I can't believe you said that. But what you expected? It is exactly you who provoked that. You was given many good explanations, but you continued to insist infinitely on your viewpoint, without taking a break for consideration of arguments of your opponent to good depth. > Perhaps this is getting to the root of the "real" problem. ;-) Certainly NO. > Perhaps we "lowly programmers" need to ditch Ada, and reinvent > our own flavour of the same. This is simply nonsense. You, and even "we" simply have no skills that are necessary for reaching anything comparable. > After all, only "lowly programmers" > would need to worry about such dirty things as portability. Oh, perhaps you really need a year of real software engineering practice. Or get a good friend of that kind. It seems that you should not rely upon your imagination in this matter. Alexander Kopilovitch aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia