From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.newsland.it!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Marius Amado Alves Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [OT] price of doing science (was: No call for Ada...) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:02:43 +0100 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <003e01c42ef1$f863c2a0$f10c5451@netcabo.pt> Reply-To: amado.alves@netcabo.pt NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1083339640 67629 212.85.156.195 (30 Apr 2004 15:40:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:40:40 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:140 Date: 2004-04-30T17:02:43+01:00 On Friday 30 April 2004 16:25, Alexander E. Kopilovich wrote: > Marius Amado Alves wrote: > > Believe me, it's perceived as the "price", and not at all "natural", = at > > least by the vast majority of scientists, form all over the world, an= d > > particulary Europe, I've been working with in various institutions fo= r > > the last decade or so. > > A scientist, who explicitly asks to believe him regarding a non-private > issue in which he apparently did not conduct any scientific research, l= ooks > somehow strange. It is a private issue. I was offering my experience. > How do you know what those many (vast majority) scientists to whom your= are > referring do perceive? We talk. > You could see only that they displayed publicly (and > the tradition requires them to display distaste for those purely > organizational matters). Maybe there is a preverted clerk-at-spirit disguising as a scientist out=20 there, but he must be one in a million.