From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f822ae7b0f7433c1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!proxad.net!cleanfeed1-a.proxad.net!nnrp20-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Return-Path: To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org References: In-Reply-To: ; from Larry Kilgallen at 18 Jan 2007 21:25:33 -0600 Organization: 100 From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:46:53 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.45 MSDOS] Subject: Re: Translating an embedded C algorithm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.17.134 NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 2007 01:50:01 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.191.14.223 X-Trace: 1169254201 news-4.free.fr 322 88.191.14.223:42066 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8355 Date: 2007-01-20T01:50:01+01:00 Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> from the other hand, they do not say what exactly they can offer, >> whether it is immediately ready for use, and how much it costs >> (not even dreaming about downloadable evaluation version). > >I found it was easy to deal with them as someone seriously interested. Well, I suppose so. The problem, though, is in being "seriously interested" in advance. >> So probably Sofcheck is really able to provide that Ada-to-C compiler for a >> determined customer, who is willing to pay enough for that. But this is not >> the case for absolute majority of embedded software developers. > >Because they are not determined, or because they want it free ? Mostly because they are far from determined customers in this case. Even if one developed some interest for a way through Ada (perhaps looking at Ada as a kind of "super lint") there still will be significant obstacles to overcome (mostly non-technical) and perspective gains are very uncertain without any past experience of that kind. The price is secondary in this case, I believe - it may repel some, but not all... even not majority of perspective customers of that kind - because various embedded development kits aren't too cheap anyway, and they are routinely purchased and used. Anyway, as there appeared at least 2 experienced users of that AdaMagic Ada-to-C compiler, it may be an elegant (and even, perhaps, useful) completion of this thread if someone takes from it hand-made C-to-Ada translation, feed this Ada program to AdaMagic compiler, and then post the resulting C code (produced by AdaMagic compiler) here.