From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e5bfa021bc026369 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-26 18:16:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!freenix!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Personality Conflict was: why Ada is so unpopular ? Date: 26 Jan 2004 21:08:07 -0500 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <401524D4.CBDA0658@mitre.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1075169303 77937 80.67.180.195 (27 Jan 2004 02:08:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:08:23 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4866 Date: 2004-01-26T21:08:07-05:00 David Starner writes: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:30:46 -0500, Stephen Leake wrote: > > > > What "support" is missing? In particular, what support is missing from > > Ada that is available in other languages? Not in the vendor libraries > > for those languages, but in the language itself? > > That seems like an artificial distinction. If my C code works on every > Unix platform, why should I worry about whether the code depends on C > functions or on POSIX ones? Because you may need to port it to a different operating system? More to the point, the OP was complaining about the language standard itself, not the libraries available for it. > Further out, is it not an advantage that a language have libraries > regularly available to do something where Ada has no corresponding > libraries? Or that a C library is well-maintained where an Ada > binding to that library is not? Yes, these are valid points. But the OP did not seem to be saying that. Part of the reason I phrased my response this way was to make him think about this distinction. -- -- Stephe