From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-07 00:33:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Carroll-Tech" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: No call for it Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:50:28 -0700 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1076142691 49766 80.67.180.195 (7 Feb 2004 08:31:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 08:31:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5303 Date: 2004-02-07T01:50:28-07:00 ----- Original Message ----- > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:23:38 GMT > From: Les Cargill > Subject: Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language > To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org > Message-ID: <4023C090.152C7E08@worldnet.att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > [snip] > I've seen some fair sized 'C' and C++ projects. They are readable - > to 'C'/C++ programmers. > > I'd have loved to have used Ada, but there never was much call for > it. I've been reading posts to this newsgroup for some time now, as well as reading other information and I don't get the "never was much call for it" ideal about Ada. I'm not saying that anyone is wrong or right for saying or feeling that there "never was much call for it"; maybe there wasn't. I'm leaning more toward saying "it's a conscious choice". I tell the students that I tutor that learning some Pascal or Ada would help them and they get scared. I mention doing a project in Ada and everyone looks at me like I'm out to punish myself. To me it isn't any easier to use C/C++, Java, Perl, Lisp or Prolog than it is to use Ada. How is it that Ada has this "super powerful", "super difficult", "there's not much call for it because it's too advanced and powerful" air about it when it's just another language? It's like saying that the machine code spit out of an Ada compiler has some mystical, magical properties that makes the Ada language more difficult to use. To me, with Ada0Y coming out, the "not much call for it" attitude is the clich� to dismiss. Or at least one of the things to overcome. Just my opinion as a reader of comp.lang.ada.