From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-13 17:13:25 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nnx.oleane.net!oleane!freenix!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing newscripting/prototyping language) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 04:11:10 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1081901448 92588 212.85.156.195 (14 Apr 2004 00:10:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:10:48 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: ; from "Frank J. Lhota" at Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:57:45 GMT X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.44 MSDOS] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7066 Date: 2004-04-14T04:11:10+04:00 Frank J. Lhota wrote: > > their PL/I was probably (I didn't try it, but I have read some docs) weaker > > than IBM's PL/I Optimizer/Checkout pair, their Fortan IV was not better > > than IBM Fortran H > > I cannot vouch for all of the VAX compilers, but their Ada and PL/1 > compilers were very good. I did not say that DEC's PL/I compiler was bad or mediocre, I just said that it seemed (from its docs) somehow weaker than IBM PL/I Optimizer/Checkout pair, which was excellent. > Also, their Fortran and Basic compilers had some > very nice extensions to the base language. IBM Fortran H also had quite interesting and sometimes very useful extensions. > One pleasant aspect of the VAX / VMS development environment is their > support for multi-language programming, i. e. the use of more than one > programming language in the development of an application. Using the VAX > compilers, you could write a program with parts done in Fortran, Ada, and > PL/1. From the PL/1code, you could signal a PL/1 condition that would > handled by an Ada exception handler! I know of no other platform where that > was possible at the time. After VAX DEC released Alpha workstation, and the name of its OS suggests (possibly for marketing only, but I don't know) that it is a heir of VMS. For which degree it is true, and did DEC (while it was alive) try to migrate VAX/VMS compiler family to Alpha's (Open)VMS or not? Alexander Kopilovich aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia