From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-08 04:51:18 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsrout1.ntli.net!news.ntli.net!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Marius Amado Alves" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:46:14 -0700 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <4073E83C.30402@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1081424853 65277 212.85.156.195 (8 Apr 2004 11:47:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:47:33 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2004 11:47:25.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[42A8BDB0:01C41D5F] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6845 Date: 2004-04-08T13:46:14-07:00 Here's a idea to ease the adoption of Ada, and thus expand it, and thus augment the percentage of reliable software in the world, and throw some business our way along with it. The main result is a CD+book that constitutes the big package everyone seems to be expecting, containing every resource/library required to learn Ada and build a vast class of applications, and easy to install and use. *The economical feasability of this project assumes that such a package does not exist already. Is GNAT Pro it? Is ACE? Another? If yes then stop reading here.* The realisation of this project requires money investment and/or resources, because I see no other way to do it than setting up a team of Ada library mantainers, application developers, authors, and perhaps trainers, holding at least one initial physical meeting in a laboratory somewhere. 10 or 20 people. This requires coordination, leading to the selection of participants and identification of leaders. CEO+CTO is a likely structure. The very initial brainstorming could be done right here on CLA, but to advance it should rapidly shift to a dedicated structure. A virtual organization. The first gathering would take a week or two and result in: - the first prototype of the product - a planned structure to produce and distribute copies of it - coordination and maintainance structures strengthened. The launch would of coincide with Ada 2005 :-) This project clearly need managerial and commercial skills as well as technical, and as I said, money investment (e.g. for the meetings), and thus a business plan, and thus a market research. We have some market indicators from the people on this list, but perhaps not enough. Basically we need to have a good idea of how many entities would buy a copy, and for how much. The expenditures we know. Once we have the market figures, the business plan is relatively easy.