From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-06 16:29:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrew Carroll" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: No call for Ada Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:42:07 -0600 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <20040406215514.474514C410D@lovelace.ada-france.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1081293833 76332 212.85.156.195 (6 Apr 2004 23:23:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:23:53 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6788 Date: 2004-04-06T17:42:07-06:00 Boy, my original post, "No call for Ada", has blown up and spread out like a wildfire. I think it was originally "No call for Ada?". I'm no expert with Ada but I've been trying things out. I wrote several small programs in Ada. Nothing to really see the benefit of the "package" and maintenance features of Ada yet. One thing I have noticed, after having worked with Ada a little bit and going to other "systems" is that Ada IS spread out. You go get GTK for this, and RAPID for that, and GNAT, and MGNAT, and AdaGIDE, and on and on. I was so tired of downloading stuff and "making" it that I just went to Visual Basic, even though I had only a tutorial on VB from a friend and some old software. It isn't that "Ada" was bad, or unproductive, it was all the work to get the tools. Using VB has to be the easiest development I have done. All I wanted was to make a little tool to organize my CRC Cards so I could look at them and edit them without having to scroll through a Word doc or buy some expensive UML product. It took me all of 10 hours. Almost the same amount of time I spent downloading and "making" all the Ada tools. I haven't given up on Ada and I still seek to us Ada because it fits the way I want to work. It's just amazing to me that there is no one entity to organize all these parts. Microsoft is the entity for Microsoft, Sun is for Java, Borland is one for C++. With Ada it is all scattered about and there's no apparent group effort. Whatever it is, it's not a centralized effort. At least I don't see a centralized effort. Would anyone be interested in that? Good software is definitely NOT doomed. In fact, quite the contrary. Here's a read for you: http://www.ad-mkt-review.com/public_html/air/ai200401.html Andrew Carroll Carroll-Tech andrew@carroll-tech.net