From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,18b00985106487ae X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-03-31 06:17:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Marius Amado Alves" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:16:38 +0100 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <83I9c.25796$w54.167855@attbi_s01><40681380.4080901@noplace.com> <40696000.9030109@noplace.com> <406AB931.60402@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1080742604 6414 212.85.156.195 (31 Mar 2004 14:16:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2004 14:16:34.0903 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5DF5670:01C4172A] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6696 Date: 2004-03-31T15:16:38+01:00 > What's the difference between me and OSI? Is it that they are more guys? > Is it that they have more money? Is it that their web site was up first? I'd say the latter :-) Actually the first important website was the FSF's. There's really no difference between free software as per the FSF and open source as per the OSI. When you ask the parties they say there's a "political" difference. What that means exactly I was unable to ascertain. Maybe the FSF was not willing to promote the OSD. Maybe OSI did not want to be a part of FSF from the start. So there's two separate institutions now. Actually more, e.g. Creative Commons. Fortunately they all get along fine, or so it seems. SDC is supposed to get along fine too, and I believe it does, except for clashes with the extreme school of though that says open source software is not to be sold, period. > ...I just don't think > its right to tell someone they can't use some terminology to describe > their software because it doesn't satisfy someone else who put up a web > site. It's not right, but they didn't just "put up a web site". FSF and OSI have a very large user base. That is what makes them important. The snowball effect. You can "put up a web site", but if it doesn't snowball it won't make a difference. That's the present situation of the SDC. A snowflake. I learn a bit more everytime this open source issue comes up. I hope to learn how to make a clear commercial open source snowflake. One that will roll. Thanks.