From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-12 08:58:59 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:56:02 +0300 (MSK) Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <5hAWb.578$tL3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1076605034 71547 80.67.180.195 (12 Feb 2004 16:57:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:57:14 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: <5hAWb.578$tL3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>; from Richard Riehle at Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:02:57 GMT X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.44 MSDOS] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5489 Date: 2004-02-12T19:56:02+03:00 Richard Riehle wrote: > English has become the > reasoning and communication tool for most of the educated world, This may be mostly true for communication, but certainly not for reasoning - please don't make such dangerous illusions. > and > anyone who tries to publish a paper in some other language finds the range > of publications quite limited. Although mostly true, there were and are notable exceptions. First, any significant scientific result that was published in prominent journal in any language will be immediately and widely known, and either the article will be soon translated into English or a detailed English review will be provided... at least in "mainstream sciences" - mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology. Second, I remember that in 70-80th several Soviet mathematical journal were translated into English by Americans (American Mathematical Society) - in whole and every issue. > Why is it that, in engineering, which is intolerant of surprise, we continue to use > tools in software engineering that are characterized by their tendency to produce > surprises? That's because not only tools, but also people may produce surprises. And there is widespread suspicion that the people who select and insist on good and robust tools have a tendency to produce surprises by themselves. And management often prefers surprises from tools to surprises from employers -;) . Alexander Kopilovitch aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia