From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,38d41f80765db1ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada France - stop spamming the newsgroup Date: 17 Oct 2004 09:08:32 -0400 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <87is9ahi5a.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> <878ya6gnnu.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1098018551 36821 212.85.156.195 (17 Oct 2004 13:09:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:09:11 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5360 Date: 2004-10-17T09:08:32-04:00 Dale Stanbrough writes: > Stephen Leake wrote: > > > Samuel Tardieu writes: > > > As one of those 50 people, I support Sam. Larry, cool down a bit. The > > spam has only recently gotten to be an annoyance. It is not anywhere > > near "bad". > > For a given definition of "bad" I suppose. I don't like the volume > that i've been seeing, There are _lots_ of posts on comp.lang.ada that I "don't like"; spam is a small subset of that :). That's life in a public forum. > especially as we shouldn't have to have -any- via a poorly > maintained system. I don't see any evidence of "poor maintenance". I see some lack of foresight in the design of the Mailman newsgroup/mailing list gateway. But at the time Mailman was designed, spam was not an issue, so that's understandable. > > Give them a chance to fix the problem. > > How much time do they need? As I see it, they've only been trying for about a week. I would easily give them a couple months. > > This entire system is supported by volunteers; you can't treat > > them like a support contract company! > > I see lots of drivers on the road who are not being paid to drive, > but I still expect them to obey the road rules and drive safely. Well, I guess that is a good analogy. But when a new road opens up (spam starts happening), you give people a while to adjust their commuting habits, and expect traffic jams for a while. It's not like the spam is causing lost real messages, or damaging anything (road accidents)! -- -- Stephe