From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,578bd4d051bc4686 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-03-26 09:58:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Marius Amado Alves Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OT: GUI [was:]Ann: TeXCAD 4.1 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:09:54 +0000 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: Reply-To: amado.alves@netcabo.pt NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1080323780 91154 212.85.156.195 (26 Mar 2004 17:56:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6562 Date: 2004-03-26T18:09:54+00:00 On Friday 26 March 2004 17:35, Bj=F6rn Persson wrote: > Marius Amado Alves wrote: > > I find it funny that a constant look and feel is so assumed to be a g= ood > > thing. It is not. It only makes beginners confuse all applications. V= ive > > la diff=E9rence. > > I'll tell you why I like neither Emacs nor VI: Because they are so > different from all the other programs I use. I want to be able to press > the same key combinations for common commands like save, exit, copy and > paste, I want close, minimize and maximize buttons in the same places i= n > all windows, and I want similar menu entries in similar places. I *can* > learn a lot of different user interfaces, but I don't like it. > > And I have a theory about why Emacs has everything but a kitchen sink. = I > think Emacs users want to do everything in Emacs because they find all > other programs so different from Emacs. > > People want consistent user interfaces. It lets them concentrate on wha= t > they're doing instead of unimportant details like which command saves > the file in this particular program. Ok, but that's not "look and feel", it's shortcut keys. I use the X versi= on of=20 emacs, with point and click menus, so I don't have to memorize keys (whic= h I=20 can't).