From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1e3f2eac5c026e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-17 05:14:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: "amado.alves" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: SIGada Conference Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:11:15 -0000 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1071666692 60457 80.67.180.195 (17 Dec 2003 13:11:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-Path: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Topic: SIGada Conference Thread-Index: AcPEOUlkdeIwxLqFSBGVtYCzMscshgAY1wR8 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2003 13:11:16.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[40EC54A0:01C3C49F] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3500 Date: 2003-12-17T13:11:15+00:00 >>> : ... Java-style interfaces... >>=20 >> I'm surprised this one is still being listed. It has been shown to >> be completely unnecessary. > > Ok, I'll byte. "Shown" where? By *the* Ada guru J.-P. Rosen in Ada-Europe 2001 or 2002. And I seem to = remember in the ARG discussions also, but I'll have to check. > Personally, I > think Java-style interfaces will let me do things I simply cannot do > now. That's what has been shown. That all those "things" can be done in Ada = now. With either (yes) access discriminants which some say it's the = golden nugget of Ada or, my favourite, formal packages. And mixins. And = combinations thereof. But please do come up with a new "thing" that cannot be done in Ada now. "Java-style interfaces" is a poor man's multiple inheritance. I'd love = to see fully fledged (linguistic) MI in Ada 2005, but *that* is too hard = to define and implement. So I'm happy without it. But in that case I = don't want the fake MI either.