From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-05 17:38:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula or oberon was RE: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:37:22 -0800 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1041817083 41932 137.194.161.2 (6 Jan 2003 01:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 01:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Envelope-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <58DA04B8AACA46CA.B70E513C9E74D837.148D4DD238FBAC96@lp.airnews.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32592 Date: 2003-01-05T17:37:22-08:00 The site is at the Computer Systems Institute at the Swiss Federal = Institute of Technology. It opened for me. The following may be of interest. http://www.bluebottle.ethz.ch/oberon.net/ http://www.bluebottle.ethz.ch/oberon.net/projectGoals.html The Oberon.NET site has a set of goals: Our idealistic goal in the Oberon for .NET project was the design of an interoperable, imperative object-oriented language that is simpler, more economical, more powerful and better scalable than comparable = programming languages. More specifically, our goal was a language that:=20 Preserves the spirit of Oberon.=20 Disentangles different concerns like code reuse, polymorphism, = sub-classing etc.=20 Emphasizes the view of software development as implementation of = predefined abstractions.=20 Unifies the logical structure of programs and distributed systems.=20 Is able to interoperate with other participating languages both as a consumer and as a producer.=20 Maps naturally to the .net framework I believe that these could be met by SPARK or the equivalent. http://www.bluebottle.ethz.ch/oberon.net/ActiveOberonNetWhitePaper.pdf is a description of the language. It would be well worthwhile for the = Ada language architects to read this. Oberon blows away Java. Bob Leif -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org = [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of John R. Strohm Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 1:38 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula "AG" wrote in message news:joSR9.11275$F63.197247@news.xtra.co.nz... > > > > Addison-Wesley ACM Press ISBN 0-201-54428-8. > http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/. > > Just a quick question and maybe a warning [?] > > Clicking on that link resulted in a flurry of activity > from Zone Alarm Pro on my machine (it's been > more or less quiet for some months now). > > Checking the logs turned up things like > "Generic Host ..." but also specific blocked > destinations called "dump.inf.ethz.ch" > > Matched with the link above that doesn't > look too good. Any comments? Beats me. That is the official Oberon site at ETH-Zurich in = Switzerland.