From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-02 14:11:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Anybody in US using ADA ? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:09:50 -0800 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1041545463 28076 137.194.161.2 (2 Jan 2003 22:11:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Envelope-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32462 Date: 2003-01-02T14:09:50-08:00 Especially if the Indians, Russians, etc. use an Ada compiler including = the free version of GNAT to build commercial applications that put US = software manufacturers out of business. Deming taught the Japanese manufacturers statistical quality control and = the US automotive industry has still and probably never will fully recover. Bob Leif -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org = [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of tmoran@acm.org Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:11 PM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? > Programmers want to have skills that can get them a job somewhere else = if > Congress pulls the plug on what they're doing Are there other industries or professions with as narrow apparent = skill sets? "Young doctors don't want to learn surgery in case advanced drugs make it unnecessary." "Lawyers don't want to learn criminal law in case everybody becomes saintly." "Civil engineers want to learn only about high speed rail, not roads, fearing no more roads will be built in = future." Even actors worrying about type casting usually try to diversify, rather than getting lots and lots of practice in crowd scenes. :( Q 2: What will all those C++ and Java programmers do when they discover you don't innovate by getting a job that let's you use last year's innovations, and they have no competitive advantage over Indians or Russians at learning last year's innovations.