From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3f52e7d21475e02a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-23 17:21:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!easynet-quince!easynet.net!teaser.fr!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Basic (Was:Re: Why is Ada NOT ... ) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:15:59 +0300 (MSK) Organization: h w c employees, b f Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1040692862 91906 137.194.161.2 (24 Dec 2002 01:21:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.44 MSDOS] Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32269 Date: 2002-12-24T04:15:59+03:00 sk writes: > >> Basic is a very valuable learning tool to get a > >> feel for what programming is. But that was not the purpose stated in original posting. We were not asked about a way "to get a feel for what programming is". I remember that the original author stated that he wants learn programming constructions gradually and thoroughly - that's all (in fact, he stated explicitly that he have no intention to become professional programmer). We do not know whether he will use that knowledge for any programming... for example, he may seek an additional source of inspiration for another business... well, we read Shakespeare's "Hamlet" not for preparing ourselves for medieval Danish court. >I am not arguing that Basic is a good language (nor >bad). My point is that for beginners, who have little >concept of fundamental programming concepts (loops >arrays etc), Basic provides a frame of reference so >that these concepts have some solidity/meaning when >one runs across them later. There may be other frames of reference... pure mathematics, for example... or even chemistry -:) Alexander Kopilovitch aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia