From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,28cd155693714664 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-15 21:59:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!teaser.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Faulty languages and Liability Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:58:58 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1024203543 10918 137.194.161.2 (16 Jun 2002 04:59:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 04:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Envelope-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26070 Date: 2002-06-15T21:58:58-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: David Botton et al. I was hoping to find a lawyer to speak on software product liability at SIGAda 2002. If anyone knows of an attorney, who wishes to become very rich, this would be a golden chance for that attorney. SIGAda has an abundance of expert witnesses. In my own field, the FDA regulations should be stronger than the Ada mandate ever was. Unfortunately, the FDA's own programmers do not know about Ada. Unfortunately, current corporate mentality seems much more prone to respond to fear than to desire to do the job right. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of David Botton Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 7:11 PM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Faulty languages and Liability I have been saying for year the day would come that software authors would start to be found liable for their bugs... the time is approaching.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020615/tc_nm/bizliab ilit y_software_dc_1 << Researchers on both sides of the Atlantic say most reported security incidents are due to software defects that could easily be fixed. >> Using Ada is the first step to solving these problems! Now we need to get some spokes people to help these lawyers go after faulty software manufactures for using faulty languages too :-) David Botton