From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,345c9fcf5a67a99f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-29 23:36:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed.online.be!isdnet!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: [OT] Switching to Linux (was: Microsoft takes on ACT) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:35:03 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1022740562 91871 137.194.161.2 (30 May 2002 06:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 06:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Envelope-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24981 Date: 2002-05-29T23:35:03-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: Chris Danx et al. Absolutely, no secret! I spoke about it at my XML workshop at SIGAda 2001 and submitted a paper to Ada Letters. If anyone wants a copy, write to me directly. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of chris.danx Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:48 PM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: [OT] Switching to Linux (was: Microsoft takes on ACT) "Robert C. Leif" wrote in message news:mailman.1022595242.12403.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org... > From: Bob Leif > To: Michal Nowak et al. > > An XML based GUI that was powered by Ada including the use of protected > types and tasking could be much easier to use than Windows. This XML GUI > would also be much more reliable and efficient than Windows. Can you provide some details of XML guis or your thoughts? (or are they a secret, incase someone rips off your ideas?) This has popped up once or twice here in the past, but there hasn't been much debate or indeed provided information on the marrying of XML and a GUI. > Incidentally for normal mortals, I highly recommend EasyDesktop > www.microseconds.com > It employs a revolutionary GUI based on words. No icons. This makes it > very easy to use for those of us who were educated with a Western > alphabet. it's a bit *different*, eh? > As for the device drivers, writing them in Ada should facilitate their > reuse in multiple similar products, such as graphics boards. Eventually > XSL FOP could be part of the driver for both printers and graphics > boards. Some OS developers in aod have taken an interest in UDI, Ada might be a perfect partner to this but since I don't know what UDI specifies in terms of types (if anything) I can't say whether there would be a great benefit in a mix of the two. Depending on how things go this summer, I hope to have a small microkernel (think L4 small) finally in development. Nick Roberts (right second name? apologies to Nick if it isn't) is also planning a microkernel and it'll be interesting to contrast the designs; which can only improve each others efforts (although it will help to bare in mind that the projects aim to meet different requirements, with each design reflecting this. Obvious, but better said than left to chance). Chris