From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,345c9fcf5a67a99f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-27 02:20:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!freenix!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: Michal Nowak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [OT] Switching to Linux (was: Microsoft takes on ACT) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:23:05 +0200 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <4519e058.0205230724.38617c60@posting.google.com> <3CED2E66.DD15C13D@despammed.com> <9ff447f2.0205231909.40170d61@posting.google.com> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1022491203 69758 137.194.161.2 (27 May 2002 09:20:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk X-Reply-To: vinnie@inetia.pl List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24850 Date: 2002-05-27T11:23:05+02:00 On 2002-05-26 at 09:37 Preben Randhol wrote: >The point is that the Linux developers have to figure out for themselves >how a device works unless the company developing this device wants to >share their documentation. Now device drivers are made for Windows by >the companies producing them so installing some brand new hardware can >be much easier on Windows. Yes, I know that. That is real pain for Linux users. I signed a petition some months ago directed to hardware manufacturers. It was a request that they notice growing Linux community and cooperate with Linux developers to create device drivers. It was on http://www.libranet.com/petition.html but it seems it is closed now. However Polish version still exists. I hope they succeeded in collecting enough signatures to be noticed. >When speaking about the ease of installation, on seem to forget that this >may not be so important. Example: my father uses Linux because of all >the Windows viruses and all the problems he got using Windows. I >installed Windows for him as he had no computer experience. And later I >installed Linux. All he has to concern himself with is to use the >computer for that he wants to do. He doesn't have to bother with the >underlaying drivers etc... And he has no problem with Linux compared to >Windows. I do not claim that Linux is unusable for non-cs people, but there was my observation. What I saw is, if they had no "click-click-do-all-for-me -graphical-wizard", they fell lost/are too lazy(?)/want more convenience in using system. It reminds me some post we had on CLA concerning GUIs - "click-click-do-all-for-me-graphical-environment". Well... Cheers, Mike "In the world of machines, virtual machines, dominated by software ... ... a new culture is born"