From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,345c9fcf5a67a99f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-25 13:10:07 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!teaser.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: OT: Microsoft takes on history Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:09:48 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1022357406 5286 137.194.161.2 (25 May 2002 20:10:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Envelope-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24792 Date: 2002-05-25T13:09:48-07:00 From: Bob Leif To: Preben Randhol et al. A word processor in XML that was based on XML schemas and XSL for presentation would be a very competitive product. If the tables in this word processor were in XML, they could combine the best of a spreadsheet and a standard table. The graphics can be done in XML SVG. The user interface should be XForms. And, the implementation language should be Ada. The macro language should be an Ada J Code compiler. The combination of XML and Ada should be very effective in producing commercial applications. Now, all we need are some entrepreneurs. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of Preben Randhol Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:12 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft takes on history On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:51:35 -0400, Marin David Condic wrote: > The concept of a "Free Market" is not quite up there with "Total Chaos" and > those who espouse free markets do not generally condone criminal behavior. I meet with some Americans from the oil industry and they said. Nobody (in USA) is willing to pay more for a more enviromental oil production. The goverment would need legislate a restriction for the oil companies so they have change the production. I don't say it is criminal behavior at all, I just want to point out that there are other things to take into account than just economy. That is why you need somebody who can steer the market. > Fortunately, they don't usually control the army and police force. :-) > But that doesn't mean that we therefore need governments deciding what > should be made, how it should be made, when it should be made, to whom > it should be given, etc. etc. etc. That is a "Command" economy and > every one ever created has either already collapsed or is on the verge > of collapsing. See above. But there are actually people out there building theories on how one could have everything private, police, army, judges etc... > Word. (Star Office is making inroads to the market is it not?) I think it is due to: 1. Microsofts new licensing policy 2. It can read/write Word files. Although I haven't tried it lately. 3. It is cheaper. 4. It is available on several platforms. In this order of importance. > And if the choice of Word is irrational, what substitute would we have > to make the "choice" of word processors more rational? A committee in > Washington deciding what the current best offering is for word > processing & then mandating it be used by all computer users? I'd > rather leave it to the irrational market. :-) No I was saying a standard open file format, like HTML is for the web. (Only something much better than HTML though) XML seems to be making inroads. > Who said everyone who votes in the United States is a Milton Friedman > Free Market Advocate in good standing? Voters here run the gammut all > the way from Pure, Unadultrated Fat-Free Capitalists to Absolute > Totalitarian Command Economy Communists and every stripe in between. > Politicians who want to buy votes will cater to the desires of the > interest groups out there who want all sorts of stupid things - > including the right to pick the pockets of their neighbors to buy the > stuff they want. Just because an idea is *stupid* doesn't mean you > can't convince a bunch of voters to back it. Are you having elections for congress or something now? Preben