From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f7a9613bbc2bd8c9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-14 04:06:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Grein, Christoph" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Generic default parameters Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:03:46 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1021374362 22638 137.194.161.2 (14 May 2002 11:06:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: mail.eurocopter.com: uucp set sender to using -f Content-MD5: LH86cpv5w7Fhu0ZKBAW3Jg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk X-Reply-To: "Grein, Christoph" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24009 Date: 2002-05-14T13:03:46+02:00 > >I do see problems with this proposal. First of all it would be a major upwardly > >incompatible change and break old code - a NONO for the ARG. > ... > True. It would make some old code ambiguous. However the ambiguity can > be relatively easily resolved. Easy or not, only if absolutely necessary would the ARG be willing to change the language in a way that is upwardly incompatible. This proposal does not seem worth it. > >This being the case, it seems useless to discuss how matching rules for > >subprograms with defaulted parameters should be defined - they are not so > >obvious for me. > > In fact I thought that the matching rules for subprogram renaming > should be relaxed with regard of default values. Presently, generics > just use that rules. I wished these rules were same as ones for > subprogram calls. Maybe, as close as: > > function Int_Sqrt (X : Integer) renames Sqrt (Float (X)); > procedure Debug (X : Integer) > renames Put_Line > (File=>My_File; Item=>Integer'Image (X)); This is invalid syntax (I can imagine what you mean - it's a mess). But the rules would not be so simple. Defaulted parameters need not come last (in this way you force named association when omitting parameters). So would either subprogram procedure (X: S; Y: T := Def); procedure (X: T := Def; Y: S); match procedure (W: S); What about procedure (X: S; Y: S := Def); procedure (X: S := Def; Y: S); Would they both match?