From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,CTE_8BIT_MISMATCH, FREEMAIL_FROM,HELO_NO_DOMAIN,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT,RDNS_NONE,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC, SPOOFED_FREEMAIL_NO_RDNS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,75a75201ffc344e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-01 03:44:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!deine.net!freenix!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Gautier Write-only-address" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AdaGIDE 6.52 release (Ada GUI IDE for Windows 9x/NT/...) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 11:43:30 +0000 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1017661443 28598 137.194.161.2 (1 Apr 2002 11:44:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [194.153.188.3] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2002 11:43:30.0891 (UTC) FILETIME=[7238D1B0:01C1D972] Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21936 Date: 2002-04-01T11:43:30+00:00 Ehud Lamm: >While we are on this topic: >- I wish I had time to help, but seeing as I don't, let me just >say that building better beginner's oriented IDEs is highly >important. Many students of mine (for example) shy away from Ada >because AdaGIDE (which I really like) doesn't look like Visual Studio. I would be prudent if you associate "beginner's oriented" and "looking like Visual Studio". The possibility of unzipping a mix of sources, object files, dlls and data, opening an Ada procedure, click "Build", click "Run" is (maybe) a plus of AdaGIDE, difficult to beat (especially if you introduce project files with hardcoded pathes, names etc.). You also can test a piece of code appearing in this newsgroup without even touching the keyboard. For user-friendliness I'd rather look on the Borland side (Delphi). For the ressemblance with Visual Studio maybe ObjectAda would be a better fit ? >- I'd be very interested in better COM support integration. By this I >mean something like what you find in PythonWin. (the IDE determines >which COM interfaces are available on your machine, and knows how to >invoke a binding creation utility). If it doesn't harm the people NOT using COM, it would really be a plus! ________________________________________________________ Gautier -- http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/gdm/gsoft.htm NB: For a direct answer, address on the Web site! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com