From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,85034d1ac78a66eb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-27 21:25:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!deine.net!freenix!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: sk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Operating System Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:25:40 -0600 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <3C88E0D1.89161C16@despammed.com> <3C9514DD.9CF1F84A@san.rr.com> <99da9u0909rsblfdcc1ru7jd2r9q461qhk@4ax.com> <436o9uc7jg590rv5rb1l9v6be8vk49s278@4ax.com> <3CA0A0EA.F0CEEC89@despammed.com> <3CA1C9F9.F0E216AF@despammed.com> <3CA1F5F8.A81D9EA1@san.rr.com> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1017293104 44726 137.194.161.2 (28 Mar 2002 05:25:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19-4.3mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21748 Date: 2002-03-27T23:25:40-06:00 Hi, Darren New: Wrote >That's why most software vendors disclaim any warrantees. MDC: wrote >>And the really tough question is: "What would > >>backup" of the software they are returning? :-) Warrantees were not my point. My original point was that there would be a rapid acceleration towards secure software if you prosecuted vendors who did not show evidence of some care towards security (admittedly, establishing what "some care" means is tricky). The publically discussed vulnerabilities of a certain vendor would suggest a lack of concern which would be considered negligent in other professions. -- ------------------------------------- -- Merge vertically for real address ------------------------------------- s n p @ t . o k i e k c c m -------------------------------------