From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-19 15:33:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!213.56.195.71!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: Michal Nowak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Future with Ada Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 00:36:32 +0100 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <9vnrj9$8me$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1008804782 38160 137.194.161.2 (19 Dec 2001 23:33:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:33:02 +0000 (UTC) To: "comp.lang.ada usegroup->mailing list gateway" Return-Path: In-reply-to: <9vnrj9$8me$1@nh.pace.co.uk> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.01 (3) Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk X-Reply-To: vinnie@inetia.pl List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18130 Date: 2001-12-20T00:36:32+01:00 On 01-12-18 at 11:41 Marin David Condic wrote: >Many companies don't necessarily know about or believe in the benefits of >using Ada because they have not witnessed the tangible monetary benefits of >doing so. If their competitors were using Ada and developing better >software, faster and cheaper, then they'd have to take a look at that. > >Many individual programmers are reluctant to learn or use Ada because they >don't see a job future in it. They see thousands of ads for jobs using >other >languages and few ads for Ada positions. If they saw more companies using >Ada, they might be encouraged to want to earn a living that way. There are beginners, who would like to write in Ada. There are posts to the group like "I'm new to Ada, I found it great, I want to learn more". Maybe that is not stunning number, but there are also not unique cases. These people may start writting programs in Ada, but it will not count as professional experience. They may be willing to write in Ada at work. Maybe the point is in convincing the managers to Ada. The experience must come from somewhere. From little projects. So if it comes from somehere it means that there must be employement for inexperienced programmers. So if there comes to hire inexperienced programmer, why not Ada? There are companies, which use Ada (I mean they got qualified, staff). If the managers have the benefits of using Ada (or maybe they don't?), they will see, that Ada is good thing. So if they see, that Ada is good, why they abandon Ada...That is clear, that inexperienced worker cannot get programming a plane or spacecraft. But I hope, that there should be places for newbies... -Miked ----------------------------------------- ____| \%/ |~~\ O | o>> Mike Nowak | T | / > vinnie@inetia.pl | http://www.geocities.com/vinnie14pl _|__