From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-10 12:32:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!netnews.com!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!freenix!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Future with Ada Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:30:41 -0800 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1008016323 47871 137.194.161.2 (10 Dec 2001 20:32:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:32:03 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <9v2og6$niu$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17708 Date: 2001-12-10T12:30:41-08:00 From: Bob Leif To: Marin Condic et al. "A suite of office tools (word processor, spreadsheet, presentation tool, database, e-mail, calendar, address book, web browser, etc...) that is written in Ada". Yes! I might note that the trick is to base the suite on XML. Then, one can achieve true platform independence. A large number of Microsoft's customers use Microsoft products because we have no other real choice. We would gladly switch to something that was dependable. An Ada product where the sources were available would have, as I have published, the great advantages of truly distributed production (minimal overhead costs), extensibility by third parties, and thanks to ASIS an equitable way to distribute the royalties to the developers. Parenthetically, a well designed office suite would have such minimal hardware requirements, it would wreck havoc on PC sales. I might note that a virus checker should be included in these tools. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Marin David Condic Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:40 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Future with Ada Time is the enemy of us all! :-) Well, what about a project like this: A suite of office tools (word processor, spreadhseet, presentation tool, database, e-mail, calendar, address book, web browser, etc...) that is written in Ada and - because of inherent portability & portability of the support tools (GUI, etc.) - runs on Windoze, Unix/Linux, etc...? If its available in source and target formats for a variety of machines & has advantages over whatever else is out there, I think it stands a chance of adoption by those who have to use multiple platforms. I could imagine a scenario in which some of us Ada advocates took it on as a part-time project (maybe call it "The Great Ada Conspiracy"?) and eventually commercialize the endeavor. If there's an initial product to work with, then business management, sales & marketing, etc. can all be purchased. Build the better mousetrap? Ideas like this will help cause Ada to be more attractive & perhaps start generating that job market we'd all like to see... MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Wes Groleau" wrote in message news:3C0BB57F.61887AFD@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com... > > I have plenty of chutzpah and enough imagination to > think up good products. What I do not have is time, > and business talent. >