From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,c62a5e526aafd9d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-24 13:37:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!213.56.195.71!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "David Botton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE? Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:28:34 -0400 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: References: <9onhgu$9h9$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BAF77E6.9BDE9102@adaworks.com> Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1001363820 81789 137.194.161.2 (24 Sep 2001 20:37:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: To: Return-Path: X-pair-Authenticated: 63.161.15.130 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13301 Date: 2001-09-24T16:28:34-04:00 Speaking as one of the many "willing to commit their own resources to the creation of products programmed in Ada", it is just as important to have people use, test and comment on the creations! The encouragement from a pat on the back, "hey that's cool" goes a long way and nothing, nothing is better than some one telling you that there is a bug in the code or pointing out a cool feature to add, perhaps even sending in some change or addition. AdaCOM (The precursor to GNATCOM, you may say the successful entrepreneurial side of COM for Ada) would likely not have been completed if not for people like Rob Veenker who kept poking at it and using it. GWindows (now in Beta and soon to have its first release) was 95% completed and laying dormant for around 8 months. Between some personal issues and later overwhelming release schedules from work it sort of got placed on the major back burner. I probably would have just left it there for another few months if not for the persistence of Wiljan Derks and Andre Van Splunter, both of whom encouraged and pushed me to get back in to developing it in addition to sending in a number of their own changes / bug fixes. No GWindows is completed and has advanced features like Database binding to controls and more. Between both, Ada is a complete Win32 solution with more inherent power then Delphi, VB and VC++ combined. I am already working on a new project (in addition to changes to GNATCOM and GWindows) called GNavi (Navi is Hebrew for prophet ;-), a round trip RAD engineering tool for Ada using GNATCOM and GWindows (can we say Delphi/VB killer!) Not just a GUI builder, but an entire development environment. I hope to make some sort of preview of it by end of year. To sum it up, what Ada needs is not just dedicated people to develop, but also dedicated people to use, test, comment and give good PR (much as you do your self :-) and encouragement to everyone in the community! David Botton (Shameless plug - GNATCOM - http://www.adapower.com/gnatcom support available from ACT support@gnat.com GWindows - http://www.adapower.com/gwindows) "Richard Riehle" wrote in message news:3BAF77E6.9BDE9102@adaworks.com... > What Ada needs, indeed it is already happening, is the dedication of people who > are willing to commit their own resources to the creation of products programmed > > in Ada, for a variety of platforms. Many of these might be hobbyists who will > go > on to be successful entrepreneurs. It is not likely they will be doing this > under the > auspices of some company already committed to some other language technology.