From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-14 17:19:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!proxad.net!teaser.fr!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:19:00 -0700 Organization: ENST, France Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1060906771 26123 137.194.161.2 (15 Aug 2003 00:19:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:19:31 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Preben Randhol'" , Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: rleif@rleif.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5329 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcNho536fncPA0sSQmCiqXle3+BpDABCQuIQ X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41472 Date: 2003-08-14T17:19:00-07:00 I should note that I must be in favor of scientific publications, since I authored 85 of them, edited 9 books, and refereed innumerable publications. All for free. However, I patent and copyright as much of my work as possible. I might note that the publishers of scientific journals have thoroughly ripped off the authors, referees, and the US taxpayers. We scientists do not charge for the publications; and the taxpayers support our research. The publishers are inefficient, overcharge and have done everything possible to interfere with the publications being available for a reasonable cost over the Internet. A reasonable cost is the same as that for a patent, $3.00. Hopefully, the publishers will be disintermediated and replaced by the scientific societies posting their publications directly on the Internet. I consider GNU the Socialistic approach to software development. I favor my fellow technocrats and hope to maximize their return on their labor. Bob Leif Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. Email rleif@rleif.com -----Original Message----- From: Preben Randhol [mailto:randhol+abuse@pvv.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:14 AM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Robert C. Leif wrote: > Again, there is this utter confusion concerning release of the sources to > the customers, users, whatever; and charging for one's intellectual > property. These two subjects should NOT be linked! I still believe that even > Karl Marx ever foresaw the workers receiving an absolutely miniscule share > of the proceeds from the sale of the product. Why do you keep linking Open Source and Karl Marx? > Even though my profession (scientist) was started by medieval monks, I am > against poverty, chastity and obedience. But are you for that all scientific research should be closed? That one should not publish the finding so others can also benifit from them and bringing science a step ahead? Because it sound like it. -- - The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radioplay)