From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,936b98ceff0d9f3e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-06 10:06:39 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!195.40.4.120.MISMATCH!easynet-quince!easynet.net!teaser.fr!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Beard, Frank Randolph CIV" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: One language environment don't have future Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:05:45 -0500 Organization: ENST, France Message-ID: Reply-To: "comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway" NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1044554786 39579 137.194.161.2 (6 Feb 2003 18:06:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:06:26 +0000 (UTC) To: "comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway" Return-Path: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: One language environment don't have future Thread-Index: AcLN95ERtGEWLT1nQpirt251T/jYvgAAsrOw X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2003 18:05:45.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EEB29E0:01C2CE0A] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.1 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33839 Date: 2003-02-06T13:05:45-05:00 -----Original Message----- From: Karel Miklav [mailto:karel@inetis.spppambait.com] > The IT tower of Babel may never be built, but UML and tools around it=20 > are a step forward. And there is a difference between modeling and=20 > coding; I guess we're not going to rewrite data structures in all = sorts=20 > of languages forever? Or watch compilers #%@! us with cryptic = messages?=20 > There must be evolution even in IT. Wasn't (or isn't) that the goal of CASE tools? Of course, the CASE = tools would need to evolve more to go from design to implementation. I haven't kept up with the current state of the CASE tools, but most of = them were trying to use a graphical interface tool to draw your system on the screen and then produce compilable software components. The ultimate evolution of the CASE tools would be to draw something on = the screen and have it spit out a working executable. I guess you would = have a "primitive" (or base) set of components and data structures with which = to build all others necessary for developing your target product. The = problem someone else eluded to was, what do you do when a new data structure is required which cannot be built from your primitive or composite sets? = Then someone has to go in with the language used to build the CASE tool and add the new structure(s). Unless the CASE tool can be used to build the = new components or data structures for itself (the Cobol compiler to build a Cobol compiler approach). Just thinking out loud. Frank