From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Brian Drummond Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What is the best license to use for open source software? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <0Kgqw.953330$_k.685364@fx16.iad> <397379a8-d894-46c9-b8a7-13c590af42ba@googlegroups.com> <616ae348-41f6-446f-9c4b-0da8e398e75b@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="da745e888d4a5182b5fda6212bbb0a63"; logging-data="25882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18q6LzBJ0QzhfmD0wCVpTwFvyv7yQezkvk=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W4EA0acTo8C78qaxG62lqsXsMQI= Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:192058 Date: 2015-01-27T11:18:57+00:00 List-Id: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:46:50 -0800, Jedi Tek'Unum wrote: > On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 9:37:34 AM UTC-6, David Botton wrote: >> > If the Ada community is not interested in broadly attacking the >> > problem then nothing is going to change. >> >> Perhaps: >> >> 1. Start a new thread with a specific issue you need help on [... other good suggestions snipped] > > So the community here would rather shoot the messenger than accept the > message? Like I said, nothing changes. All the good intentions in the > world won't solve it. Despite individuals making valuable contributions > to moving the bar, the bar is still crushingly low. Suggesting you contribute is not shooting you. News flash : posting here, you are *part* of the Ada community, not something separate from it, outside it looking in. Your problems are our problems too. I post here fairly regularly but I'm not remotely a major Ada expert, just another small time member of the Ada community. So, you have problems (for example) installing AVR-Ada on OS/X. Probably you're the first person to try with your specific combination of packages and what worked smoothly for the last guy on the previous release no longer works. Report the specific problem - if not here, then on the AVR-Ada Sourceforge page and work with the nice folks there to resolve it. That's what I did (sorry, not for OS/X) and make life *slightly* better for the next guy. I mention the AVR because there are a few good people here working on the ARM already : watch for announcements. Cumulatively, that's what it'll take to get us out of the mess you so correctly say we're in. - Brian