From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL is not shareware Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:03:32 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <87bnmetex4.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <79f3eff7-2b45-40ae-af94-fa9a17426d82@googlegroups.com> <87bnmd8mg2.fsf@ixod.org> <19cf9bc2-f8b9-4735-b427-7b070dda59da@googlegroups.com> <1otenmcbgnvlt$.dn9361nl2jm8$.dlg@40tude.net> <8ryfky4awox2$.q2gfw4pvsgau.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1420841012 5188 24.196.82.226 (9 Jan 2015 22:03:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:03:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:24511 Date: 2015-01-09T16:03:32-06:00 List-Id: "G.B." wrote in message news:m8om3v$2ga$1@dont-email.me... > On 08.01.15 17:54, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:17:15 +0100, G.B. wrote: >> >>> The same setup could be used for a database of Ada identifiers >>> and possible relations among them, since each of the identifiers, >>> as the word "identifier" says, denotes identically one element of >>> the universe of named things that an Ada source establishes. >> >> This is obviously wrong, since units can be instantiated, recursively >> used, >> objects have scopes and life time. > > "Identifier", which denotes a source entity uniquely. It's > about a database of things in the source text, not about > things at run-time. So in other words, it's unusuable for a debugger, which is an important part of an IDE. (That's a problem with ASIS, as well; one of the reasons that it is a better idea than useful thing.) And it probably would have problems with macro-expanded generics vs. code-shared generics (again, which ASIS has in spades) - either you duplicate the definitions, so you no longer have a 1-to-1 relation of identifiers to source, or you don't, and you have multiple versions of the same thing. Rather a lose-lose situation. Randy. Randy.