From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-22 05:52:43 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) Date: 22 May 2003 07:52:41 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0305160440.7846d18c@posting.google.com> <3ecca391$1@news.wineasy.se> <3ECCB7D0.4020400@noplace.com> In article , Vinzent Hoefler writes: > Marin David Condic wrote: > >> It may have been possible to >>kill it, but if it could stay up and running for months on end and not >>crash under a large variety of uses, this ought to be good enough for a >>large variety of users. > > Well, I can exactly tell you when we had a power outage the last time: > > |1:46pm up 209 days, 4:22, 1 user, load average: 2.00, 2.00, 2.03 > > Is that "good enough" already? Certainly not, even though that uptime and failure reason match my own. I always figure my failure to provide a UPS is my own problem, but there are some whose needs are more critical. The record I know of without a reboot is about 16 years, for the Irish Railway. When they finally brought the machine down, it was running a _very_ old version of the operating system. But that machine did not have a wide variety of usages, and the OS was old enough that some of those user-provoked crashes we know from history were likely still present. But we are concerned about the defects that have _not_ yet been fixed in contemporary releases of the operating system.