From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:57:18 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <87fvdr2vdv.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> <54609F34.4080201@spam.spam> <35f01472-3510-4f67-8765-006fa8591c35@googlegroups.com> <9tc8w.73007$ZT5.37595@fx07.iad> <22a3816a-4e89-48f0-a126-dce581781beb@googlegroups.com> <084b1934-9641-425e-85ec-293e0334413e@googlegroups.com> <86bf69c8-eb08-4696-b6c9-3784f5c42213@googlegroups.com> <1415776387.7960.41.camel@obry.net> <4b21e212-7744-433a-a939-a82ef63ce8cc@googlegroups.com> <1415791954.7960.59.camel@obry.net> <2c66b776-777b-4530-a1a3-21337cefab85@googlegroups.com> <1ac854d1-36b7-4d06-b673-ad25cdb71736@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="255c73e5f59d0e5d99d52bb6242c1720"; logging-data="5604"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/M1TZ581gpmq5C/ELOG6HyzF5YQXewhcM=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:xQ15wXQnD+DLHvF9Hj0zf+Eu1ZU= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:23226 Date: 2014-11-13T09:57:18+01:00 List-Id: On 13.11.14 09:41, Harry Bolger wrote: > On 2014-11-13, Georg Bauhaus wrote: >> On 13.11.14 08:40, Harry Bolger wrote: >>> That's now. I suspect once world domination draws near they will pull that >>> trick out of their sleeve and it will be too late for the lemmings to do >>> anything about it. >> >> You're joking, right? >> > > About what? Stalemate has already acknowledged he wants this. He just > couldn't shove it down people's throats far enough at that time. Right. And a single citizen cannot survive a move against most of his supporters, including commercial supporters like Redhat or Oracle or AdaCore, who make a living in the enterprise and military spaces. The powers insinuated are even less if there is the prospect of moving towards differently licensed open source LLVM. I don't think the FSF is sufficiently suicidal for that. > All that proprietary gcc code > they wrote over the past twenty years thinking it was C won't compile or run > on anything else and they'll be locked in. I recall that many GNU-isms are well supported by major C compilers, including Intel, and also that the same argument could apply in reverse when trying to port C or Fortran away form Intel-isms. Apple, OTOH, have been doing exactly what you have outlined, a couple of times, and they are doing well. > Is this such a difficult proposition for you? Not difficult to decipher as a fine specimen of FUD, by all standards I can just now think of. For example, completeness.