From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:53:45 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <87fvdr2vdv.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> <54609F34.4080201@spam.spam> <35f01472-3510-4f67-8765-006fa8591c35@googlegroups.com> <9tc8w.73007$ZT5.37595@fx07.iad> <22a3816a-4e89-48f0-a126-dce581781beb@googlegroups.com> <084b1934-9641-425e-85ec-293e0334413e@googlegroups.com> <86bf69c8-eb08-4696-b6c9-3784f5c42213@googlegroups.com> <87389olqie.fsf@ixod.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-196-82-226.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1415832827 30143 24.196.82.226 (12 Nov 2014 22:53:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:53:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:190497 Date: 2014-11-12T16:53:45-06:00 List-Id: "Hubert" wrote in message news:aSG8w.567817$Q61.266688@fx13.iad... ... > The Gnoga project might be something to get people started though. Part of > what put me off two years ago was that Gtk wasn't working very well for > me. The layout editor was messing up half my screen and looked not very > user friendly, so my conclusion was without a decent User Interface > library it makes little sense for me to invest more time. Unfortunately, if it is like most of David's other software, it won't work on other Ada compilers. (That is a common problem, not really picking on David here, a lot of supposedly Ada software is really GNAT software.) That locks you into GNAT, and as you note, the costs for getting regular support for GNAT are not really affordable. One of the reasons we built Claw was to provide a Windows interface that would work on any Ada 95 compiler for Windows, not just GNAT. That requires displine and testing that most hobbyests wouldn't bother with. Randy.