From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, FREEMAIL_REPLY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-06 15:33:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!130.227.3.83.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" References: <3FA2CDCB.500F4AF0@fakeaddress.nil> <3FA3B412.AF3BEB96@fakeaddress.nil> <3FA50083.10709@noplace.com> <3FA777E9.4030605@noplace.com> From: Mark Lorenzen Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xKjB22QOnXLjAEf7wCH+CkSXeb4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 01:09:04 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.84.221.216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@colt-telecom.dk X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 1068159739 62.84.221.216 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:02:19 CET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:02:19 CET Organization: Colt Telecom Kunde Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2175 Date: 2003-11-07T01:09:04+01:00 List-Id: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) writes: > Mark Lorenzen wrote in message news:... >> 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) writes: >> >> [cut] >> >> > By the way, if a C/C++ programmer writes x = x + 2; in lieu of x += 2, >> > chances are he is not a top-notch programmer. But Ada forces such bad >> > style, and that's bad style itself. >> >> I allways write 'x = x + 2' instead of 'x += 2'. I simply despise the >> latter form, as it is unreadable and "hackish". >> >> Luckily Ada does not encourage such bad style. > > Oh, so x += 2 is "unreadable", eh? Do you have any idea what that says > about your intelligence? You might as well just blurt out, "I'm an > idiot". > > I hope you are near the end of your career too, because otherwise you > have a tough row to hoe, considering that the four or five most > popular general-purpose programming languages consider "+=" standard. > Or do you expect to use Ada for the rest of your career? Good luck. I am at the beginning of my career and I not care about what is popular or not. I only care about correctness, formal methods, calculi, algebra, ML, Ada and SPARK. Sadly I do not work with any of these things, but I still have at least 30-35 years to find my luck. If you want to know, then I am programmimg in C++ at the moment. This includes using the Standard Template Library with its hackish ++ operators on iterators. > > Folks, if you don't like my attitude, I really don't give a flying you > know what. Quit making assinine assertions in reply to my posts, and > I'll quit calling you on them. But you are making such assertions yourself: >> > By the way, if a C/C++ programmer writes x = x + 2; in lieu of x += 2, >> > chances are he is not a top-notch programmer. But Ada forces such bad >> > style, and that's bad style itself. - Mark Lorenzen