From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f948976d12c7ee33 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-20 13:37:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Sender: malo@niflheim.malonet Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Boeing and Dreamliner References: <20030619221951073-0500@library.airnews.net> <3EF367AE.8060803@spam.com> From: Mark Lorenzen Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 21 Jun 2003 00:40:48 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.84.221.216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@colt-telecom.dk X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 1056141432 62.84.221.216 (Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:37:12 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:37:12 CEST Organization: Colt Telecom Kunde Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39504 Date: 2003-06-21T00:40:48+02:00 List-Id: Jeffrey Carter writes: > For Boeing the question should be, "How much will it cost to develop > S/W to safely fly hundreds of people in language X?" Ada still has a > tremendous advantage in that kind of situation. Achieving the > necessary reliability in most other languages, including C++, is > significantly more expensive than in Ada. Add to that the added cost > of adding C++ to existing Ada code, compared to doing the new code in > Ada, and the business decision should still point to Ada. > But the infamous: "But, we can't find any Ada programmers..." argument still sits in its dark and damp corner of a manager's office and just waits to be spoken out loud. Sadly. And now C++ is used for JSF. So the "If C++ is good enough for the worlds most expensive and advanged figther jet, then it surely is good enough for a civilian passenger jet" argument will also be used. We live in sad times. - Mark