From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!colt.net!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Sender: malo@0x535ba1b6.boanxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Cc: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <13886201.p35jjuWv0U@linux1.krischik.com> From: Mark Lorenzen Date: 06 Mar 2005 13:35:39 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: TDC Totalloesninger NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.91.161.182 X-Trace: 1110112539 dtext02.news.tele.dk 182 83.91.161.182:41538 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8745 Date: 2005-03-06T13:35:39+01:00 List-Id: "Paul E. Bennett" writes: [snip] > > Considering that the proposition in this thread has been "Ada protects you > from making silly mistakes" I consider that your take is counter to the > evidence. I still maintain that language is immaterial to the safety of the > system, relying on decent rigourously applied development processes, > reviews and testing. Therefore, I tend to look at the development processes > and their "real" CMM rating. I guess the Ariane team went down a few > notches on that project. Ah yes, that old "You can make correct programs in any langage" statement. It is difficult to argue against it, since it is theoretically correct. A few years ago I worked at a company where the senior engineer completely refused to use any new tools or language, since she didn't understand their use. She clinged to the old low-level language with the argument that getting the software right was just a question if code inspections and testing. And of course she was right, but the cost of getting the code correct was so enormous that the company closed the development office in question. Fortunately I left the company before the blodshed. Regards, - Mark Lorenzen